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December 7, 2009

Table 16 Discussion

Participants:
-Laura MacConaill, Dana-Farber Cancer Institute
-Geoff McKinley, Osmetech Molecular Diagnostics
-Ted Snelgrove, Crescendo Bioscience
-Nicole Stephenson, PricewaterhouseCoopers
-Kimball Thomson, National Summit on Personalized Health Care
-Dan Vorhaus, Robinson Bradshaw & Hinson

Recommendations
-Congress's current approach of "scaling it before nailing it" (attempting to institute large-scale, sweeping change before incorporating the necessary elements, including PM) is excruciatingly expensive and can lock us into hoary, antiquated technology/approachesCongress/CMS, payers should fund and utilize demonstration projects

-Integrated payer/provider systems such as Intermountain, Geisinger and Ohio State U should serve as models and sources of both PM research and reimbursement

-We need to create a new CMS regulatory framework that rewards value, doesn't leave doctors (or their patients) out of the equation

-We need to beter align incentives with interests/needs of the health care system and the patients it should serve

-Patient advocacy groups should play a larger role in orchestrating research, publishing guidelines and educating patients, Congress and other key constituencies


Posted by Kimball Thomson on December 7, 2009 at 4:13 PM in November 18 Table Discussions | Permalink | Comments (0)


November 18, 2009

Table 26 Comparative Effectiveness Research Discussion
The Wednesday lunch discussions at Room 27 Table 26 included representatives originally from Argentina, India, Russia, South Africa and the US so excellent backgrounds and perspectives for a conversation that largely, focused on Comparative Effectiveness with a few meanders from the core topic.
 
The discussion opened with a quote from the Lewin Group report presented to the PMC on October 28 in Pentagon City:
 
“ Two high profile healthcare issues of the emerging delivery paradigm of Personalized Medicine (PM) and the form of evaluation known as Comparative Effectiveness Research (CER). While the purpose of CER is to determine which healthcare intervention works best for a given healthcare problem, the purpose of PM is to ensure that healthcare delivers “the right treatment to the right patient at the right time.”
 
Participants in the discussion explored the concept of CER as a national concept as well as discussed the implications of CER applied regionally, internationally, globally in the context of likely genetic variability in regional and indigenous populations. 
 
The issue of patient differences, a major area of interest and concern for PM was discussed in the context of CER – the notion of CER as an umbrella strategy for determining population based strategies for CER in concert with the need to account for patient genetic variability or “heterogeneity of treatment effects, HTE” was discussed.
 
It was observed that CER studies seem to focus on very basic issues, single gene disorders, not yet ready to address more complex scenarios do not take into account more complex disorders. Countering observations were that it is still early, must start with  small “wins”.
 
Rick Mandahl UNICONNECT, Discussion Leader
Ena Bromley,  BioStat Solutions Inc.
Irina Koroleva, Novartis
Mark Messenbaugh, Somalogic
Guillermo Perez, Infinity Rx  
Ravi Rauniyar, Abbott Molecular
Nicole Touchet, HMFP Beth Israel Deaconess
Jason Walker,   Hewlett Packard

Posted by Richard Mandalh on November 18, 2009 at 11:36 PM in November 18 Table Discussions | Permalink | Comments (0)
Table 10 Discussions
Consumer:
·         Personalized medicine is not direct-to-consumer testing. It is enabling consumers and the teams that care for them to provide appropriate care.
·         Needed – an engaged population of patients and care teams that are prepared to assimilate new knowledge as it is developed.
·         Also needed, a regulatory system also prepared to act on new information as it is developed.
Public Policy
·         FDA to put in place practical, well-defined processes for co-development of drug and companion diagnostic testing.
·         Appropriate recognition of the prospective and retrospective study data in regulatory decisions.
·         As HC reform increases the demand for specialized skills like genetic counseling, efforts to plan appropriately for the care delivery team of the future should pay attention to training the professionals needed in the future.
·         Need a careful, continued review of state and federal privacy laws that could limit the ability teams caring for individual patients and those concerned with population health.
Comparative Effectiveness Research
·         It is key that CER look at the appropriate stratification of the patient population and not focus on the average (or median) patient.

Posted by William Marder on November 18, 2009 at 6:23 PM in November 18 Table Discussions | Permalink | Comments (0)
Table 18 Consumers Discussion

* need to educate patients and PCPs about new tests
   - awareness that test exists
   - interpreting results
   - implications for treatment and
     lifestyle
  And ideally all BEFORE test is given

* how to help patients have the confidence to forego agressive treatments (e.g. Chemo) when a test. Implies that they are unlikely to be beneficial?

* focus on tests for more deterministic, validated biomarkers now then move to less deterministic genetic predisposition later

* focus on tests that are most "actionable" where the course of treatment is immediately impacted


Posted by Kenneth Fasman on November 18, 2009 at 6:22 PM in November 18 Table Discussions | Permalink | Comments (0)
Table 25 Discussions
1. We discussed the power of the consumer and advocacy groups - to pressure reimbursers; consumer's potential to sue physician if did not administer a test (e.g. BRCA 1/2) - and developed breast cancer.

2. Companrative Effectiveness: will require long-tern retrospective studies to incorporate molecular diagnostics/targeted therapies into calculations. 

3. Reimbursement - some physicians have economic incentives not to utilize molecular diagnostics, e.g. Warfarin clinics are big business; interventional cardiologists can see business threatened.  Ideally - physicians should be paid salaries, as do not at Mayo Clinic. 
Posted by Suri Harris on November 18, 2009 at 6:20 PM in November 18 Table Discussions | Permalink | Comments (0)
Table 15 Comparative Effectiveness Research Discussion

Table 15 focused on Comparative Effectiveness Research (CER)

 CER is not new; the quest today is how to do it “better” and include:

Randomized clinical trials AND less expensive inputs (observational studies, MBA cost-benefit)

Multiple views: physicians, hospitals, payers, patients, labs, corporate innovators

Multiple outcomes, costs

How can CER address multiple parameters & interest groups  and most of IOMA’s 100 priorities?

NIH issues call for proposals and selects best proposals, not a priori specific areas to study

Enabling legislation says, “CER cannot inform payment in any way” BUT our table agreed IT SHOULD 

How can NIH, AHRQ, IOMA etc accommodate pressures so many interest groups?

Our system does a pretty good job considering the many views it must accommodate

Perhaps there is a way to elevate the debate, select & disseminate best opposing views rather than spend the time to reach consensus in every case

CER must integrate PM more broadly YET faces challenge to recruit enough patients for subtype analysis

80% of HC spending is on 5 preventable diseases – provide incentives for consumers to lead healthier lives? 

#1 Recommendation:  Education

Require passing “health literacy” exam for hs, college diplomas

Include PM in residency training and board exams


Posted by Mollie Roth on November 18, 2009 at 5:16 PM in November 18 Table Discussions | Permalink | Comments (0)
Table 22 Consumers Discussion
-Consumers need to drive health care decisions with their providers
-Consumers must be informed/educated
-A significant increase in the sensitivity and specificity of genetic tests will be crucial to get consumers to pay
-Consumers need protections/ways to challenge/options if the record is incorrect
-Need standards for tests
-Consumers must be empowered to take ownership of their information (e.g., personal health records)
-Consumers must work with doctors to interpret results

Posted by Hathaway Russell on November 18, 2009 at 4:45 PM in November 18 Table Discussions | Permalink | Comments (0)
Table 6 Reimbursement Discussion
 - CPT codes need to be revised to have a "z" or "s" code that uniquely identifies the diagnostic. This helps payers track outcomes and diagnostic companies achieve full value of the innovation. The reimbursement of such a code will depend on the negotiation between the payer and the dx company.
- AMA sets the codes and is the greatest barrier to get this changed. It was noted that the AMA sets standards of payment which its own members and organizations benefit.
- The idea of code stacking with multiple MISC codes is not sustainable and is prone to be generate false incentives, i.e. more codes, more genes, and better reimbursements do not necessarily translate to better genetic tests.
- Payers are open to pay for diagnostics tests as long as there is a clear economic benefit. This often means a prospective study which can be costly for a small diagnostic company.
- Preventative or Risk stratification tests are difficult to justify reimbursement due to the longitudinal data required and the tendency for people to move among payers. Specifically, payers are hesitant to pay for tests that have a longer term pay-off.
Posted by LINH HOANG on November 18, 2009 at 4:23 PM in November 18 Table Discussions | Permalink | Comments (0)
Table 3 Discussion
Table 3 Discussants: (all participants are currently involved with Personalized Medicine [PM])
 
Table Chair: Patrick F. Terry, President & CEO of Technic Solutions, LLC
 
Our table discussion included the following participants, in no particular order:
  Investment Bank Executive
  Information Management Executives
  IT/IS Business Executive
  Community-based Hospital Administrator
  Industry-based Analysis & Market Researcher
  DHHS Government Official working directly on clinical integration
  Molecular Diagnostics Venture Capitalist
  Medical Doctor and Harvard Business School Professor
  Washington DC-based lobbyist and lawyer
 
We had a wonderfully interesting discussion that we began with an observation and one question to launch the group discussion at our table:
 
Statement: We must recognize that we are at the early stage of a highly dynamic industry transformation.
Question: Where are we in personalized medicine (PM) transformation from your unique perspective?
 
We each highlighted our assessment of where we believe the science, clinical realities, and the business of PM is today.
 
The conversation was too rich and detailed to adequately cover on this blog posting. But, I will share some key points of the discussion and debate. I want to also be clear that even though we were at a PM conference we don't all agree on the cost saving elements and promises being made by the advocates of PM.  So our discussion was not a cheer leading session on PM.  We debated some points and what we thought were important factors enabling and inhibiting PM. I think we really dug into The Problems currently facing PM.
 
1.     Reimbursement uncertainty for PM and specifically for advanced diagnostics was a key impediment for PM.
2.     It was also agreed upon that we have not effectively begun to deal with the "Last Mile" set of challenges facing the integration of PM into patient care. Those challenges are real, definable, and horribly complex dilemmas that will dwarf the challenge related to reimbursement issues.
3.     It was also agreed upon that we (the collective community currently involved in PM) do NOT have a common appreciation, unified language, or understanding of the issues and/or potential solutions for PM.
4.     One open question was posed: Do we really KNOW if PM is an incremental innovation or a profound game changing innovation? (A good question we did not tackle at the table. You can think about it and come up with your own assessment.)
5.     We quickly covered the large challenge of the "Human Factors" relating to receptivity to the PM concept, the educational demands, adoption challenges, info management issues and the real world integration logistics of the delivery systems that exists today.
6.     It was stated that consumer (patient) demand will drive PM adoption by physicians, hospitals, and payors. This was a point of contention: Some of us believe that due to the complex system of incentives and disincentives driving clinical care deliver today and because that system has a highly developed immune system to resist "patient demand" that consumerism will not be an effective disruptive factor to advance PM to any meaningful way anytime soon.
7.     We talked through some of the new skill sets that physicians will need to develop and deploy in order to effectively integrating PM into clinical care. We discussed how this can be navigated without the old baggage of constraining the practice of medicine or physicians feeling a need to reject decision aids, electronic management systems, care pathway management systems, and other logistical hassles of info management systems. How can physicians and providers cope with this info overload as it comes rushing at them while trying to care for patients. It was brought up that the conference award speaker's vision of the future of PM has some real hurdles because  the practicing physician and the medical students being trained today don't have the necessary time, incentives, or skills to manage individualized medicine as described by the speaker.
8.     Considering that the reality today, 70% of all patients are being treated by small community-based physician groups, how is it that PM is going to become a broadly integrated paradigm? What new solutions and delivery model changes must occur to enable PM in that setting?
9.     Comparative effectiveness research is viewed as a big THREAT and at the same time a big OPPORTUNITY for PM and evidence generation that can support or significantly cause damage to the PM paradigm.
10. It was agreed upon that we also NEED a mountain of data and numerous experimental delivery models to be able to prototype what PM can mean for the future of medicine and 21st century health care. If we generate irrefutable proof about the value of PM then we will advance the field at an exponentially accelerated rate. Data, data, data. 
 
Thank you for reading our blog post.
 
Sincerely,
Pat Terry
PatrickFTerry@gmail.com
 

Posted by Patrick Terry on November 18, 2009 at 4:10 PM in November 18 Table Discussions | Permalink | Comments (0)
Tables 28 & 29 CER & Reimbursement Discussions
·        OncoType DX – why is it cost effective? Only 4% respond to tamoxifen at 100K / year. $3500 – company spent a lot of time (and money) doing detailed cost-effectiveness studies to convince payers to reimburse.
·         Warfarin cost / benefit less clear; MDs, insurers not so convinced.
·         If insurer only insures patients for 5 yrs on average, no incentive for long term preventive care – eg cholesterol management.
·         hepC / interferon – recent SNP IL28b predicts outcome 80% responders. MD don’t want to use at baseline – maybe early in treatment? New HepC therapies 3x more expensive.
·         How is cost-effectiveness or clinical-effectiveness defined? QALY models. 
Controversy over whether cost should be included in CER or only clinical? Resources always finite; ignoring cost unrealistic. Different diseases use differents stds of cost-effectiveness – eg oncology 100K for 1 mo life extension.  
 Need NPV/EPV calculation for diagnostic test increment to drug. 
·         What if costs increase but outcomes improve?
·         NICE @ UK
·         Payor may not be willing pay. Need to demonstrate – tech assessment.
·         Fed Coord Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research.
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Reimbursement based on evidence of outcome: pay-for-performance for drugs.  E.g. Velcade reimbursement in UK tied to biomarker impact.
·         Diagnostic codes. CER off of claims data more effective than EMR. Lose continuity when patients shift payers. Buy 3rd party datasets/registries for mining. Phase Forward Signalling product. Secondary use of EHR data. I2B2. Claims data. Detecting adverse reactions.   Tests are not binary. How do you extract incremental value?  How reliable does a test need to be to be useful? Or cost-effective?
·         Issues with homogeneous populations. Weak predictors -> combine to get stronger. What if still weak?
··         Use predictive SNPs' ethnic distributions to predict / suggest population responses.
·         SNP to predict nonresponse to anthracyclines in breast cancer.
·         Missing heritability in GWAS - does it impact outlook for genetic diagnostics?
/combining datasets from DeCode, 23andme…
·         Guidelines for proving clinical utility/validity? Very soft. Go to KOLs in TA. Get TA professional organizations to write into guidelines. FDA enforcement discretion.  CMS has clinical utility definitions. Bruce Quinn @ Foley Hoag (Boston) has written on this.   PMC are about to release concept paper from 2005 on Clinical Utility guidelines.
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 Time to validate Dx depends on endpoint – surrogate endpoints (eg viral load in HIV)

Jerry Conway, Mark Reynolds, Tanya Kanigan, Shane Weber, Darci Horne,  Maggie Zhang, Gail Radcliffe, Sylwia Karwowska, Eddie Blair,  Dan Paterson,  Annette Taylor. Stan Letovsky (scribe)

Posted by Stan Letovsky on November 18, 2009 at 3:44 PM in November 18 Table Discussions | Permalink | Comments (0)
Table 12 Discussions
Reimbursement:  Although CMS may be the appropriate entity to take the lead with reimbursement for personalized medicine (PM) products, for PM, costomers may actually have more influence.  When patients demand igher quality and more appropriate care, payers both public and private may feel compelled to follow. 

CMS is thought of as perhpas an entity that could ballence industry's desire for the heighest possible price with private plans' desire to pay the least.  Lack of clarity of what CMS needs in terms of evidence lead to a conversation regarding the lack of clarity at FDA.

That is a blog topic for another day. 
Posted by Amy Miller on November 18, 2009 at 3:23 PM in November 18 Table Discussions | Permalink | Comments (0)


November 17, 2009

Reflecting on Five Years of Progress
Five years ago the Harvard-Partners Center for Genetics and Genomics, an organization that was a joint enterprise of Harvard Medical School and Partners HealthCare in Boston, held a conference on Personalized Medicine (PM). As the subtitle of that first meeting, “Promises and Prospects,” indicated, the conference sought to examine the status of personalized medicine and to bring together different stakeholders in this emerging field. A newly founded organization, the Personalized Medicine Coalition (PMC), joined the effort. The PM conference in 2005 focused on the scientific and medical basis of PM. Two themes emerged from that meeting. One was that a conference organized by a not-for-profit organization, together with an entity whose mission is to educate different societal constituencies about different facets of PM, was a welcome addition. The second theme to come out of that meeting was that the implementation of personalized medicine requires collaborations between academic medical centers, government and its regulatory agencies, businesses, pharmaceutical companies, payers, doctors and patients. 
 
Personalized medicine has evolved significantly during the past five years. In 2005 few people knew about PM and some who did know about it felt that it represented a futuristic view of medicine that may be implemented in 10-15 years. In the ensuing years there has been a significant change in the awareness and attitude about PM. Many influential people in the national administration and Congress have embraced PM as an important component of healthcare future. President Obama, while he was a Senator, introduced PM legislation in the Senate. Michael Leavitt, while he was the Secretary of HHS, embraced PM, and the current Secretary, Kathleen Sebelius, is very supportive. Many pharmaceutical executives are speaking of the importance of personalized medicine in their drug development efforts. An electrifying moment in our 2007 conference was a talk by John Lechleiter, the current CEO of Eli Lilly, championing how a pharmaceutical company can develop excellent drugs based on the principles of PM without sacrificing on profits. Today most, if not all, pharmaceutical companies are developing many drugs based on these principles. At that first meeting in 2005 the payer community did not believe that PM was ready for implementation and there was inadequate evidence to support payer attention. We  are pleased that since then examples of personalized medicine and their success have caught the attention of payers and that this is an important topic in the boardrooms and executive offices.
 
A major development during the past five years is the development and availability of technologies that enable rapid and low cost DNA sequencing. In 2003 when the first human genome sequence was completed it was estimated to have cost nearly two billion dollars.  A few months ago a company announced that it has sequenced human genome for less than $10,000 a genome.  Many believe that the $1,000 genome is just around the corner. This cost of sequencing has important implications for diagnostics and handling the large data sets.  It also has implications for consumer genetics companies that raised excitement in some quarters and concerns in others. Several thought leaders argue that the involvement of consumers in healthcare decision augurs well for our future and the consumer genetics companies have the potential to predict and therefore prevent disease in our population. The role of information technologies in medicine in general and personalized medicine in particular cannot be overemphasized. It is important to assess the current status and future of all these features.
 
Based on the feedback from that first meeting all of the subsequent meetings have been a collaborative effort between the Center, now renamed the Partners HealthCare Center for Personalized Genetic Medicine (PCPGM), Harvard Medical School and the Harvard Business School. The PMC continues to be an active partner in these meetings. Past conferences attracted speakers and participants from many walks of life and the discussions inside and the outside the conference auditorium have been lively. This year we are hosting the 5th annual Personalized Medicine conference. It is going to bring together the largest group ever to celebrate the discoveries and success stories of personalized medicine and explore new ways to bring the power of PM to our healthcare. We believe that the implementation of personalized medicine will result in better outcomes for the patient population at a reduced cost to the society. Such implementation would indeed revolutionize the practice of medicine.
 
This year’s meeting is attracting a more diverse audience than previous years and we expect that there will be many interesting discussions at the meeting. We welcome you to our conference. I am sure you will find something of interest at our meeting. It is also a great opportunity to meet new people.

Read this and related entries at The Age of Personalized Medicine Blog

Posted by Raju Kucherlapati on November 17, 2009 at 10:03 AM in The Conference | Permalink | Comments (0)


November 10, 2009

Insurance Companies and the Case for the Post-mortem Patient

As Raju mentioned in the previous entry, one goal of personalized medicine is to help minimize our country’s skyrocketing healthcare costs. Although this will be accomplished, in part, by using genetic information to improve a physician's ability to deliver targeted treatments to patients, another key component to this financial equation will be the education of insurance companies on how best to use personalized genetic medicine.

To highlight this point, take the case of a family who tragically lost a father from sudden cardiac death due to hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. Since HCM is one of the most commonly inherited cardiovascular diseases, the father’s close relatives, including his young son and daughter, are considered at risk for having inherited the disease. It’s important for the family to understand exactly what mechanisms contributed to the father’s death because this can help guide future healthcare decisions for his little boy and girl.

Although pricey at roughly $3000, tests for most of the genes known to cause HCM exist and insurance companies have demonstrated they will pay to have their patients tested. The standard procedure is to test the proband - or known affected family member - first, then if a genetic mutation is identified, all remaining family members can be tested for the known mutation at a fraction of the cost. In this scenario, the cost to test our father and his two children would be about $3500.

The problem is that the father in our scenario is dead and therefore no longer a patient of his insurance company. What happens now? Well, surprisingly, the insurance company pays a total of $6000 to have both the boy and girl tested for HCM. Let’s say the boy, but not the girl, is found to be positive for a mutation. Without knowing if the father carried this mutation and passed it on to his son, it can be challenging to interpret the significance of the mutation, and even more difficult to predict how this will affect the little boy’s health.

This is a simplified, yet real example of how insurance companies, if not properly educated, can contribute to the increasing cost of healthcare. To help solve this problem, physicians, geneticists, genetic counselors, and the insurance companies need to get together to discuss the most appropriate ways to obtain clinically relevant genetic information. Although this will be an ever evolving and ongoing conversation, patients, and the healthcare industry as a whole will most certainly benefit from these educational collaborations.


Posted by Elizabeth Duffy on November 10, 2009 at 10:47 AM in Healthcare Reform | Permalink | Comments (0)


October 9, 2009

Healthcare Reform
When President Obama took office he was faced with a financial crisis of unprecedented proportions. The President has identified that Healthcare reform is an essential component of our fiscal well being. Healthcare reform has emerged as a critical initiative of the new Presidency. Much of the healthcare reform debate is focused on how to provide access to a large population of uninsured Americans and how to pay to for the costs associated with such an increase. One of the ideas about containing healthcare costs is to provide only those treatments that are known to be effective for each patient. Although the phrase personalized medicine is not frequently used in the healthcare debate, I believe that implementation of personalized medicine could provide medical care that results in better outcomes for patients and at a lower cost. This is the premise of personalized medicine. I have always felt that making personalized medicine a reality requires bringing together all of the stakeholders and have them engage in intense discussions about the status of personalized medicine and the pathways for bringing personalized medicine to healthcare. This year we are celebrating the fifth anniversary of an annual meeting held on the campus of Harvard Medical School in Boston to accomplish this goal. I would like to encourage all who are interested in bringing better healthcare to the populations around the world to join us at this year’s exciting meeting.
Posted by Raju Kucherlapati on October 9, 2009 at 2:36 PM in Healthcare Reform | Permalink | Comments (0)







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